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PostSubject: In this thread, we shall list...Horrible RPG Characters.   Sun May 09, 2010 11:35 pm

This is an idea I came up with while scanning the So Bad It's Horrible pages on TVTropes.org.

In these threads we shall list horrible things. For this thread, it's horrible RPG characters: List the characters who are unappealing, suck in battle, are completely incompetent, or any combination of the three.

Do take care not to get into flame wars over whether Squall is an emo git or not. Also, this is for RPG characters, not fighting game characters. (Consider yourself lucky, Ike...)

I'll start.

Kimahri (Final Fantasy X): So much for one of the more interesting FF jobs. Kimahri is a combination of Dragoon and Blue Mage, and believe me, he's near-useless. He can learn a grand total of about eight spells, which include Self-Destruct (which leaves you with only 2 characters for the rest of the battle), Seed Cannon (Null-element damage, just like the Jump attack he ALREADY HAD)...the only two good spells he can get are White Wind and Mighty Guard, both of which Rikku can create with her Mix overdrive. In fact, Rikku can use overdrives of equal or even BETTER value than Kimahri's! I barely ever use Kimahri unless I'm on a NSG game EVER. The only time you'll ever use him is the one fight in the game that forces you to use him, and him alone, and it'll be pathetically easy since the enemies in that battle are just as strong as Kimahri is! No wonder the other Ronso snapped his horn off.

Summoner (Final Fantasy XI): Not a character, but a job. In the 365 days I played this game, I've found that the Summoner job defies all logic. Unlocking it isn't that hard; the problem comes when you start using the job. Simply having an esper out drains your MP, and ALL of the espers have HORRIBLE melee. Their special attacks suck even worse, and cost too much to be useful. To earn the right to even SUMMON anything other than Carbuncle, you need to fight the espers themselves. You can do this either the easy way (get a level 60 party to do it for you...good luck...) or the luck-based way (by yourself at level 20). I say "luck-based" because there is ONE strategy available that works, and it's not 100% guaranteed to work every time. Then again, this is coming from a game that thinks solo battles should be over 9000 times harder than group work, and that hours of grinding and losing EXP upon death is "challenging". There's a reason I don't play this game anymore...

Serra (Fire Emblem 7): Honestly, do I need to even say anything about Serra? Erk hates her, and for GOOD REASON: She's loud, annoying, always complaining, and probably wants all the guys to, ahem, "love" her. The minute she joined me again in Eliwood's game I gave her staff to Priscilla (Mend is inefficient, IMO) and used her for the rest of the game as a healer instead. The only reason I didn't kill Serra off is because I care about my survival rank. What's that? If I don't use her I'll be screwed on the desert map? By this point, Erk and Lucius will be able to use staves. Simply put, Clerics blow. Especially Serra. And believe me, if you're a Fire Emblem character and managed to end up in this thread, man, you're just plain awful.

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PostSubject: Re: In this thread, we shall list...Horrible RPG Characters.   Tue May 11, 2010 12:18 am

Thieves from FFT, Ramza from FFT & all characters with sword skills in FFT that normal characters couldnt use. (WOTL doesnt count.)
Thieves are broken all game round especially when you play the game like I do and know where people will show up during random encounters.
As for Ramza well I'll let you think about it.

I'll think of some more.

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PostSubject: Re: In this thread, we shall list...Horrible RPG Characters.   Tue May 11, 2010 12:54 am

FE RD

Fiona: She starts with low speed and that results in almost all of the enemies doubling against her.

Astrid: WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU?!?! In PoR you were weak when first recruited, but you were my #1 killer by the end of the game. But in RD you decided to crap out now?!

Makalov: He is an ok unit, but for the only unit that starts on a horse and uses swords, I would expect more from you. Sorry Makalov, but I will just stick with Mist.

Danved: Again, he is an ok unit, but he is probably the worst of the three spear knights in the game (the other two being Nephenee and Aran).

Laguzes: Before anyone gets all riled up, I know why they are the way they are. They are hypothetically the stronger units of the game, resulting in more damage, HOWEVER, they have to wait before becoming strong. In the wait time, they are completely defenseless. That is where the problem begins for me. Why must I wait for the units to be useful? In the mean time I have to watch them or they might get attacked. I will admit, they became more useful in RD than in PoR, but that simply doesn't cut it for me.

Final Fantasy VI

Umaro: All he does is attack. You have no control on him what-so-ever. Mog and Gau are like that to but you still have a choice before selecting dance/rage.
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PostSubject: Re: In this thread, we shall list...Horrible RPG Characters.   Tue May 11, 2010 2:37 am

Colin_is_power wrote:
FE RD

lol thanks you got me thinking of new ones to add.

FE POR
Titania: Because she had to be the fing Jeigan. (I forgot how to spell it) Why take the first female you get as a fking Jeigan.
Astrid < Shinon < Rolf (Astrid is Too weak to even survive a round vs anything. Well so is Rolf but at least you can make him lv 20 on the battle you get him if you wanted to. lol)
Ilyana: Hottest mage and she had to suk at least for me.
I agree with all the beast being broken so I rarely use one in battle except to get new units if i can with them. (Masters not included)

Volke: Takes too long in my taste to really premote. But hes a beast when he does.

Calill: Comes too late and too stupid to be useful sitting behind watching randomness.
Lucia < Mia and she comes too late.
Elincia: Needs Babying to be useful with her g@y sword.
Ena: No one is going to run vs Black Knight and even if you did she so weak its hard to catch up.

And finally low and behold

IKE: Only FE game you can solo with a Lord. WOW! I dont even know why I complained about it. lol

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PostSubject: Re: In this thread, we shall list...Horrible RPG Characters.   Tue May 11, 2010 3:14 am

I thought up some more Sad

Merlinus (Fire Emblem 6): In Fire Emblem 7, Merlinus rocks. You don't even need to guard his tent because his high speed and luck make him nearly untouchable. He can even carry your items for you - perfect for castle maps with tons of treasure. There's a reason he's that good, and it's that he SUCKED in Roy's game. He can move from the start in this game, but his stats blow, he takes up a slot in the preparations menu, and in a cruel surge of pain and torture, the ONLY way to level him up is to have him survive attacks, and he gets ONE EXP for every attack he survives. WHAT. WERE. THEY. THINKING?!

Misa (Stargazers): For those who are unaware, Stargazers is easily the worst RPG of all time, and the second greatest disgrace to the Famicom (the greatest being Action 52). The game would've had a decent plot if it wasn't so reliant on the manual and if getting far in the game didn't require so much grinding. Some "fans" saw the potential and re-made the game using RPG Maker 2003, and it's much better than...you know what, anything is better than the original game. I dunno about the remake, but the original game had just one character that does absolutely nothing aside from filling the fourth slot in your party. No, seriously. All the characters have the same attacks, so Misa isn't worth leveling unless you want cannon fodder. The other characters have an out-of-battle ability that makes them useful. Misa just plain sucks. But you NEED HER to finish the game. Why? Event flags, that's why. The translation's incomplete, so I really don't know for sure.

Porygon (Pokemon Generation 1): There are plenty of equally bad Pokemon in Generation 1. Generation 4, I'm not sure about. At least Porygon evolves there. But back in the day, Porygon cost a shitload of coins, meaning you either grind cash, or take a chance at the rigged slot machines. Porygon only exists to fill a slot in the Pokedex. He has no attacks of note, no good stats...simply put, there are a good 50 or so alternatives. Did I mention the seizure-inducing anime episode? Which was filler anyways? Aaaaall righty then...

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PostSubject: Re: In this thread, we shall list...Horrible RPG Characters.   Tue May 11, 2010 9:38 pm

I think I'll have to add in a couple of FF characters. Both for the same reason.

Tifa (FF7) and Wakka (FFX) Why? Because of the roulette based limit break/overdrive.
You have to be either EXTREMELY SKILLFUL or Born Lucky To get the good uses out of these. Now, I'm not saying that [cough]Wakka[/cough] they suck.
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I find myself using Wakka quite regularly, against almost every flying enemy in the game, because most of them are immune to magic. And sword attacks can't hit them. You NEED Wakka to take them out. But they both have the worst limit break/overdrive in their respective game. Wakka is second only to Kimahri, because, as Ephraim pointed out, he sucks terribly. Part of what Ephraim failed to mention about Kimahri is how his overdrive is THE ONLY WAY to use his so-called Blue Magic. He can't use it normally, which makes him become a complete Epic Fail because he is the most worthless character, not just in his game, but I'd have to say in the entire Final Fantasy Series.
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PostSubject: Re: In this thread, we shall list...Horrible RPG Characters.   Tue May 11, 2010 11:11 pm

Well, there is one thing about Wakka that sets him apart from the others: His attacks are ranged. Plus his other overdrives are good, but that's the other reason not to use him: To unlock his other overdrives and his ultimate weapon upgrades, you have to hope that they show up as prizes in Blitzball tournaments. That means loads and loads of that horrible role-playing sport.

And if I had to pick a character from FF7 for this thread, it would be Cait Sith. In a game where your worth is determined solely by your limit breaks and how many materia slots your equipment has, Cait Sith fails on both levels. His limit: A dice roll. Really. He's an even WORSE character, plot-wise: Sure, he's a double-agent, but the reason he gives for joining you? "I've never seen this fortune before, Aeris! I want to see how it turns out! *wink*" I guess his "utter cuteness" is the real reason Aeris let him join the party. That same "utter cuteness" made me barf. And guess what? He's a robot, so you can't get him killed off like Aeris was, no matter how hard you try.

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PostSubject: Re: In this thread, we shall list...Horrible RPG Characters.   Wed May 12, 2010 3:42 am

Secret of Mana

Way back in the SNES era. For those who know this game, you are probably wondering who and why I chose. It is the boy (aka Randi). He is a great character and all but when it comes down to it, he is really useless. Think about it, all he can do is attack. Even though he has higher attack and gains more HP when compared to the girl and sprite, that is all he has to his name. After you get magic the boy gradually loses usefulness. Also, you do NOT need to use either the boy or the sword to beat the game. I am not saying he is a terrible player, but here is how I feel about his lack of magic, "That, is the BIGGEST LOAD OF S-!!" -quote forgotten-
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PostSubject: Re: In this thread, we shall list...Horrible RPG Characters.   Wed May 12, 2010 9:24 pm

Personality-Wise:

Luna Platz - Megaman Starforce.

There's no way to solely base her off by usefulness in this game, cause she's pretty useless like most of the in-game Brothers you get. But what really makes me hate her, is her god damn personality! The bitch treats Geo and even her own "friends" like they're her damn property instead of treating them like human beings. Oh! But once she finds out we're Megaman, its all caviar and wine right? Oh Luna, you fabulous dunce!

Squall Lionhart - Final Fantasy 8

This guy is a real piece of work. The most unlikable character I've ever come across in my time as a gamer. (Now granted, Squall has always been my favorite character and protagonist in the Final Fantasy Series, and only reason is because he wields a sword that acts like a gun and his final Limit Break is just Omni Slash on steroids.) He's probably one of the pioneers of mainstream emo characters in gaming history: Always belittling others, moping around, being apathetic to everyone in his group, and just in general treating everyone like crap. I really hated slugging through the dialogue with this guy, hell I thought Selphie should take over as group leader one time! At least Selphie's cheerful! When a game for the PSP makes you likable ten years AFTER your game has been released, well, you got a problem.
(FF8 NA Release Date: September 9, 1999 - FF Dissidia NA Release Date: August 25, 2009)

Uselessness in Battle Wise:

I'm going to have to agree with Ephraim's picks of Cait Sith and Kimahri.

Garr - Breath Of Fire III

Damn, it's been a loooooooooong time since I've played this game. But for some reason, I remember Garr really sucking in battle in this game. I can't place my finger on it right now, but it will come back to me eventually.

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PostSubject: Re: In this thread, we shall list...Horrible RPG Characters.   Wed May 12, 2010 11:31 pm

Rebel Yell wrote:

Squall Lionhart - Final Fantasy 8

This guy is a real piece of work. The most unlikable character I've ever come across in my time as a gamer. (Now granted, Squall has always been my favorite character and protagonist in the Final Fantasy Series, and only reason is because he wields a sword that acts like a gun and his final Limit Break is just Omni Slash on steroids.) He's probably one of the pioneers of mainstream emo characters in gaming history: Always belittling others, moping around, being apathetic to everyone in his group, and just in general treating everyone like crap. I really hated slugging through the dialogue with this guy, hell I thought Selphie should take over as group leader one time! At least Selphie's cheerful! When a game for the PSP makes you likable ten years AFTER your game has been released, well, you got a problem.
(FF8 NA Release Date: September 9, 1999 - FF Dissidia NA Release Date: August 25, 2009)

For being your favorite protagonist in the Final Fantasy series, you sure seem to know very little.
First off, his name is Squall Leonhart.
Second, have you ever heard of Kingdom Hearts? What about that guy with the gunblade? I think his name was Leon. Yeah, that's it. LEON THE GUY WHO IS THE KH VERSION OF SQUALL.
(FF8 NA Release Date: September 9th, 1999 - Kingdom Hearts NA Release Date: September 16th, 2002)

Excuse me, but he became popular only THREE years after his game. Not TEN. Thank you, come again.
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PostSubject: Re: In this thread, we shall list...Horrible RPG Characters.   Thu May 13, 2010 1:16 am

I have to wonder why is this stapled?

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