i saw ren hitaro on AWBW, any of you have an account there for some games maybe?

My answer is no. The metagame is imbalanced anyway, favoring boring old infantry+indirect spam. I know one user who has quit over the cheapness too.

Somebody else around here may still be going to AWBW though.

Yeah, me. XD

I think everyone else here quit though. Idk.

Let me elaborate:

*You need to spend more money than the guy who builds an Infantry and an Artillery alone to build an AA Tank, the cheapest unit that can OHK a lone Infantry on Roads.
*Obviously, there will be a good deal more money available than just 7500G. So they will have any number of Infantry and covered Artillery. And of course they have reserves.
*Infantry are needed to have properties in the first place. You can't tell me the spammer won't have them anyway.
*The cheapest unit capable of OHKing the Artillery on Road is the MB Tank in Dual Strike or the Battlestation (War Tank) in Days of Ruin, at 16000G. That's too much money to get a preemptive strike on it, which you desperately need against it; or to zap ALL of the Artillery that will be around after the setup.
*If you try to attack an infantry, you spend the liberty used, and it's VERY likely you get only that one liberty to strike at the same infantry. So you have to OHK it. Good luck.
*Of course, the units that attacked get nixed by the Artillery.
*Meanwhile, the Artillery sit in the backlines, so you'll have trouble reaching all of them in the first place.
*Days of Ruin takes this to disgusting degrees. Infantry cost more, but Mechs, which can be used to further punish vehicles, cost less now, and Bikers have been added with no notable weakness barring terrain.
*And of course if you don't fight this, you lose the center properties. If you do fight this, as indicated above, you end up with nothing to prevent the opponent from making you lose the center properties anyway. Without the center properties, you'll lose because you can build nothing but Mechs while drowning in spammed Bombers.

Makes me wish Rondo of Swords's Route Maneuver System could be fit into AW.

A lot if most of the maps on AWBW are Symmetrical and have FTA Balance. But a lot are user made. Recon rush doesnt always work. You can ban certain CO's if you really want to in AWBW or you can turn off powers all together and just play your favorite.

Also whats with the sudden talk about Days of Ruin? AWBW only uses Duel Strike rule set and CO's.

EDIT due to MKDH post:
That is using a co with no CO bonus like Andy right?

The reason I'm not into AWBW is the load times can get very long later in each game when a lot of units/buildings are thrown around. And the game has to re-load EVERY TIME YOU MAKE A MOVE!

Also, any map you make instantly gets shot down by "GR!T FR!3DLY!!!1!" and "FTA FTL!!!1!".

Speaking of FTA, I'm not even sure if FTA is as bad as we thought. I'd rather suck it and play Blue's position with a turn order disadvantage than argue about whether a map needs a game-breaking infantry pre-deployed. Yes, I have seen maps where the pre-deployed infantry gives Orange Star the win.

I don't think it matters if DoR is talked about anyway. To me at least, it basically has the same metagame anyway.

Response to SGD's edit: yeah. But it doesn't change much. At least in DoR you get the MB Tank, but it still needs luck damage or a MAJOR boost to kill the Artillery. Especially CO-boosted Artillery not even having to be controlled by Brenner. I'm not sure it's worth the 12000G.

*sigh* Since I don't feel like arguing the individual points out right now, especially already being upset by how vile the opposite sex is by being freaking biased, I'll just show an image to make this simple:



That's Day 14 of a competitive battle. Tell me the damn wall isn't broken.